An example of Left Wing commentator buying into Right Wing thought! RE: Jew Hatred!!

Four years ago, I was informed that John Kaminski was a spinner of tales and has discernment of reality issues.
I gave him benefit of the doubt. He then went through a stage of self importance in which he was convinced the FBE or someone else was bugging him. He was off the web but returned. It was obviously either a psychotic episode or a promotion or both.

Here he says that Israel was the perpetrator of 9/11. How does he prove that? By declaring it so. He also declares 'one need only look at the unending, inexplicable carnage in Iraq to know American cowboys and Israeli killers hire Arab
thugs, then blame it all on “the Iraqis” or “the Muslims.” This
is a primary example of the Mossad’s false flag terror program. ' How does he come to such a suprising comclusion?
Eas! its anti-news! You write the opposite of mainsteam media and then reverse the news saying if the white ithe real news is black.
Hocus pocus!

Then 'But most important, I am right about the worldwide conspiracy by a certain tribe, which is most clearly identified by its use of the phrase
“anti-Semitism” to conceal itself from responsibility for things so
ghastly that they have become the main threat to our future freedom.
' obviously a play on the opposite of Muslim plots and bombings that have yielded many real terrorists and Osama's giggle. Considering the vastness of the terror cell activity in Egypt, Spain. Indonesia, Germany, Denmark, Morocco, Italy, Canada, the US, Turkey, India, and other places it just can't be Israel & Jews since thay have WAY more important things to do. And it doesn't fit into normal understanding of history. Of course in the now discredtied (by scholars) Judas folklore where there is only good and evil and people believed in witches and were simple peasanrs led about by the medieval church one can have other views untainted by the Ages of Enlightenment, Reason Industry, etc.
Kaminski says 'I received little
response to it. ' NO KIDDING!!
more 'It is still the most important message, so I herewith
resubmit it for your perusal in the desperate hope you will identify
the real enemy of all caring human beings'. He says unless we deal with this we have no future. That can only mean get rid of the Jews!!!! John Kaminski is advocating the finishing of the Holocaust with as much proof as Adolph Hitler had.

What's really a shame is that Amelia Gore posted this. Deceved by Klu Klux Klan types into joining them she has corrupted her reputation as advocate of Hawaiian rights since the usurpation of the Kingdom of Hawaii. She has betrayed all indigenous peoples by buying into the mythology that keeps native peoples suppressed the world over. Obviously she cannot perceive the giggling of right wing Christiam anti-semites like John Kaminski or white supremacists. Racial discrimination kept African Americans, Africans, American Indians, Polynesians, Asians and others from participating in the world on behalf of themselves. When Napoleon liberated the Jews that was just one of the first strikes against this whit man's burden or manifest destiny. To divide the ranks there is a group that seeks to revive older beliefs of superstition by giving them a false butupdated backing for a revival.

Debate #2 with Internet Disinformation Agent Bretboudi

Dear Bretboudi, should I encapsulate the history of the Middle East
in every post??? Can I leave out details without consequence to my
arguement?
You are right here. The Arab/Jewish conflict only goes back to 1920
(Did I not say that??)
Under Arab and Turkish regimes Jews and Christians were under the
foot of rulers. They were forced to pay heavy taxes that exempt
Muslims. Jews were oppressed. Did I say they were a minority in all
Arab countries?
There was no Jew Hatred until the Brits said JEWS can settle in
BRITISH PALESTINE. Muslims Arabs have a large exenophobic contingent.
They actually believe that all "Umma" lands are inherently Muslims.
That those Muslim Arab states are inherently intolerant of large
Muslim populations. Check history and see how Christians have been
massacred and persecuted in Egypt& Lebanon. Saudia Arabia is
completely aparthied with Non Muslim roads and prohibitions on entry
of non-Muslims. Muslim Arabs are insecure about the ability of Islam
to "infection" by other beliefs whether its Christianity, Judaism or
secullar Western lifestyle. They prtect their religion because they
do not have faith in its ability to survive such encounters.
Here we see the assertion that Israelis (called Jews for some reason
by Bretboudi) are apartheid with separate roads, etc.
Well, when a people have dedicated themselves and supported the
destruction of Israel since 1948 as verified by polls, YOU WANT TO
STAY AWAY FROM THEM.
Since Fatahland or Hamas Gaza has not accepted peace any settlements
are not illegal. In order to have illegal, you need LEGAL first!!!!!
As for the blather about rapes, its BS. Now I cannot say Israelis do
not hate Palestinian Arabs. After all the massacres and sucide
bombings can you see Israeklis liking them in any way???
Who installed Jews in Israel. Persecution did. The Turks did. The
U.k. did. And the defeat of 5 Arab Armies in an attempted replay of
the bloodlust Holocaust did. You see Palestine was to be a bi-
national state. Like Lebanon. But the Arabs would not stand for
ANOTHER large non-Muslim poulation in the Middle East (who's racist
now?) and sent 5 Arab Armies at the behest of the Arabs led by the
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. Those armies lost much of Palestine. Those
armies requested Arabs stay away from the battle fronts. Most did.
So weren't those Arabs surprised when the Jews won?!! Suddenly there
was a lotta land abandoned by alotta Arabs. So indirectly the Grand
Mufti created Israel.
The Palestinan Arabs are heavily responsible for their OWN dilemma!
Israel can never make peace with Hamas run Gaza as they have
dedecated themselves to destroying Israel. Bretboudi??
Israel has ALWAYS wanted peace. Arabs want a Muslim piece of PLANET
EARTH. Their program is in fantasy.

Whats really interesting Bretboudi, is that you disputed very liitle
of As the Swaztika turns? WHY???????

This was in response to a Bretboudi post in another Yahoo Group:

What about before 1920? Krep? and going back a 1000 yrs? there was
no zionist / arab struggle, you fail to mention that!..there was no
jew hatred! this all started with the creation of a nation for
eastern european jewish refugees in the middle east!...arab and
semetic jews did not call for a state. with the help of
england,france and the league of nations created the mess, what we
call the israeli/palestinian conflict!..

to state that the west bank has no jewish bypass roads,Illegal
settlements for foreign jews, killings, rapes, beatings from
israelis...is like saying us americans dont beat and treat blk
people equally!..please israelis are racist not all of them, but
they are....like everywhere in the world..

you only paint a picture perfect for israel and blaming 1 billion
arabs for the fault!... no one ask england ,france and the usa to
install or endorse european jews to be installed in a land that did
not belong to them in the first place!....but vacated existing
inhabitants for a state called israel in the land of palestine
where people lived for centuries! that will create violence no
matter where you put people in the world regardless of
race ,creed ,religion or color!...there are many other
examples ....it never works!..

If Israel wants to exists, it needs to make peace with all arab
states by liberating the palestitians and give them a ligit state or
else it will always be in a vicious circle of blood and
violence!..until it vanishes

(from Discuss Mideast Truth yahoo Group)

Debate #1 with Internet Disinformation Agent Barbara Lebret

As as American? Barbara doesn't speak as a mainstream American. She
speaks from the fringe. The hate fringe. Where Nazis dwell. Places
like Stormfront.
Does the American media focus much on Israel? There are articles here
and there; certainly there are more about Europe especially our
dissaffected parent the United Kingdom. Barbara insists that Israel
is a country of whiners. Who generalizes like that? Have you ever
heard of city of whiners, or island of malcontents? Of course not;
those who judge thousands with the characteristics of 1 person are
called bigotsd. They employ something called prejudice. They place a
personality traits normal people reserve for evaluating one person at
a time. Bigots blame huge groups of millions no tools rationality or
reason. Its their way to spread hate.
They love ignorance of history. In the absence of this knowledge by
ordinary folks they insert lies and distortions.
Like "Why should Palestinians suffer
because your ancestors chose to leave? BTW, Hadrian also named the
region Palestine and you founding a country in Palestine does not
make Palestine go away. "
Thats "twisted history"!!! I could go on but 1.Jews lives with Arabs
for 40 years under Turkish rule, peacefully. 2. There was never any
independent country called Palestine. 3. Arab hatred created Israel
as the defeat of 5 Attacking Arab Armies enabled the Jews to create
Israel. No attack, no Israel. 4. The Palestinian Arabs have supported
attacks on Israel pretty much EVER SINCE.
Can out Nazi poster ever debate that? Nope!!!
What the ancestry of the Palestinians Arabs has to do with any claim
to the 13 mile wide country is beyond me??!!!! But here is a little
indication.....WHO VALUES RACE HERITAGE???? Nazis, the Klan, White
Supremacists and the like. Since she applies bloodline politics to
herself, Barbara applies it to othe political situations. You do not
need a blood test, a DNA screening or genetics verification to live
anywhere on PLANET EARTH. There is no BLOOD LAND connection of any
people. (Especially White Supremacist types)
So lets go "there" anyway. Christian Arabs (a dwindling persecuted
minority) have always claimed that THEY are descendents of the pre-
Arabic population of Roman province of Palaestrina. This incluede
Jews who survived and Greeks and descendents of of Canaanite peoples
and pre-Romam immigrants like the Hittites. The Christian Arabs state
plainly that the Muslim Arabs came as Arabic tribes bolstered by
overpopulation and prosperity ( as not being overtaxed like the Jews
and Christians ) spilled out of Arabia and into Syria, and ex-Judea.
on their way to overrruning North Africa.
Barbara says "cultural roots" when she MEANS racial stock!!!!!

In a deliberate attempt to confuse Americans especially Christians
she attempts to label Israelis as atheists. Israelis are a mix of
religious and secular. Very few athiests.
As a Holocaust Denier, (Barbara has said so in past posts) she
dismisses the enormity of the Holocaust. What she doesn't mention is
that the Holocaust is Jewish and Gentile. 5 million Gentile Europeans
died as well!!
Barbara says "But the one thing
everyone can agree on is the Palestinians did not send an army
against you (Israel). " The leader of the Palestinian Arabs (then
called just ARABS) the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem asked for military
aid from the Arab League. That came in the form of 5 Arab Armies.
Israel is really the only reliable country in the Middle East. Its
destruction is being funded by oil money from rich Arab oil states.
The countermeasure is to support Israel. White Supremacists in their
twisted mindsets would LOVE to see Israel overrun by Arabs (asa long
as Arabs stay the hell away from them)

In a great example of turnspeak Barabara mentions schoolbooks with
hate propaganda in Israel. No such thing has EVER been documented,

Yes Barbara its obvoius its"It can only be antisemitism, the
mindless,
causeless, baseless hatred of Jews because they are Jews"


IN RESPONSE TO:

To The whiners...........

(this is Nazi diet staple expect it to make the rounds of forums by
Neo Nazi sympathizers.)

As an American I have opinions on Israel which are more extensive
than of any other foreign country in the world. That is true because
the US entertainment and news media give it more coverage than any
other foreign country in the world. As a matter of fact, if I did not
know it was a foreign country I might think it one of the states in
our union.

In that paragraph I used the word foreign three times. And that is
three more times than I have ever heard the US media use the word in
connection with Israel. The common expression when such a reference
might appear unavoidable is to say something like "foreign countries
and Israel." This avoidance extends to all aspects of public life.
Israel gets special treatment in this country. I have to do nothing
to single it out for special interest.

One of my opinions of Israel is that it is a foreign country, a very
foreign country. It is a country of the most inveterate whiners in
the world. I did not develop that opinion solely from US sources. For
years I have read Ha'aretz six days a week. I have come by my opinion
quite honestly. I have also been able to set aside my knowledge and
opinion of the attack on the USS Liberty.

Israel is still a pack of whiners. History tells us those you claim
as your ancestors were truly stupid people. They picked a fight they
could never win. They revolted against Rome and for their pains were
kicked out of Jerusalem when Emperor Hadrian rebuilt it as a Roman
city. But Israelis say they were forced to leave the entire country
and have longed to return for two thousand years. Instead of spending
your time whining, learn some history. Why should Palestinians suffer
because your ancestors chose to leave? BTW, Hadrian also named the
region Palestine and you founding a country in Palestine does not
make Palestine go away.

If you set aside your whining long enough to study history you will
also learn the Palestinians you work so desperately to drive out or
kill off have the same ancestors as yourselves. Their ancestors
converted from Judaism to Islam either directly or via Christianity.
They may have adopted Arabic culture and language but that does not
change their ancestry. Israelis have adopted european culture and
languages without their ancestry being changed. But after two
thousand years in Europe you folks are entirely European and will
never be middle eastern. You will never be Israelis in other than
name. You have no cultural roots in the regions.

You jewish Israelis are mostly Europeans. You are cultural foreigners
in the Palestine where you founded your Israel. And being familiar
with The Iron Wall, I know as well as you know, you did not go to
Palestine in peace. We both know you went to Palestine with violence
and malice and theft and even murder in your minds and hearts. So
please do not whine about the treatment you received then and
continue to receive now. You have gotten off very lightly so far. You
have good reason to fear and should make a deal as soon as possible.

And speaking of the minority of jewish Israelis, Ha'aretz does not
bother much with the pretension of observant and non-observant. In
their articles it is quite clear they are talking about believers and
atheists. You have a majority of atheists saying they are Jews for
political and social reasons. An atheist can no more be a Jew than he
can be a Christian.

And then there was your cherished holocaust. Move on. Get over it.
The constant whining became very annoying after the first couple
decades. I know no one in the whole world has ever had it as bad as
you. Enough whining already!

Whatever you do, stop using it as an excuse to dispossess and murder
even more Palestinians. I am familiar with your 1948 war. I know
there are at least two sides to every story. But the one thing
everyone can agree on is the Palestinians did not send an army
against you. Of all the nations in that part of the world, the
Palestinians are the only ones completely innocent in that war.

If you do not like it being called what it is, theft and murder, stop
doing it. Those Ay-rabs attacked so lets steal from the Palestinians
doesn't cut water. And some god in some book you wrote saying he gave
it to you doesn't cut it either. You left that land. Leave that god
out of this. It makes you sound like redneck hillbillies at a revival
meeting. And as you are mostly atheists you make rednecks look good
in comparison.

And while I am on that subject you have a country. Stop mooching off
of my country to support it. You may believe you were promised a land
but no one promised you a life of luxury. By the lowest estimate my
country provides 20% of your government budget. Grow up and pay your
own way in the world. No one likes a Schnorer.

And every time you screw up your economy you come whining to my
country to bail you out of trouble again. My country is good enough
to keep the world from slapping a total trade embargo on yours. Isn't
that enough? Must you always whine for more? Is it possible to do
enough for your country?

And is flooding this country with spies for military and industrial
secrets any way to show gratitude? Or is gratitude something only
Christians feel? And while I on religion, you get a free ride off of
our redneck preachers but the fact is Judaism is one hell of a lot
closer to Islam than Christianity. Even your own people in your own
studies find your school textbooks filled with industrial strength
hatred of non-Jews.

And if someone does not see it your way it is not your fault for
failing to make your case. It can only be antisemitism, the mindless,
causeless, baseless hatred of Jews because they are Jews not because
of the eternal whining. It isn't as though you don't put on a good
show. You have a great script and you recite your lines with passion
and sincerity. The problem is the story does not survive the first
few hundred repetitions. It is like your holocaust thing. If someone
does not show all the faux reverence your politicians posture one day
a year, trust me, it does not mean they are antisemitic. It means
they have heard many times before and are not as good at acting as
you.

The Palestinians did nothing to you to start your problems. You did
it to yourselves. You chose to go to Palestine and start all your own
troubles. Anyone mature enough to decide to go live there was mature
enough to know they would live in constant danger. The Palestinians
are doing exactly what you would do in their circumstances. They know
it and you know it. Stop whining about it.

As I say, you have a good script. You say you were expelled two
thousand years ago. You say Palestinians are invaders from Arabia.
You say you went to Palestine peacefully and in humility. You have a
laundry list of poor harmless innocence and there is not a word of
truth in the lot of it. And you know there is no truth in it. And
people who say there is no truth in it are not antisemitic. The truth
cannot be antisemitic. Refusing to accept your ahistoric, juvenile,
simplistic stories is neither anti-Israel nor antisemitic.

You are very annoying whiners. You whine about your holocaust because
it is the best use you can think of for dead relatives. You whine
about having enemies that you chose to make your enemies. You whine
about people who know enough history to know you are telling stories.
You whine about people who refuse to take your side.

No one owes you anything. You have that country you wanted. Stand on
your own two feet for the first time in you history. Stop begging for
handouts from my country. You are not worth it. Only you think you
are. When you were called a "shitty, little country" it was the
little that bothered you not the shitty.

The entire premise of your whining is you believe you deserve better.
This is a just world. You have what you deserve because it is what
you chose. Choices have consequences. Adults know that. Whiny little
children do not.

(from Mideast Truth yahoo Group)

As the Swaztika turns

White supremacists have adopted this Hilterian propaganda technique
called turnspeak. Whatever strategy they adopt thats obviously evil
they accuse Jews/Israelis of. Like calling Israelis, Nazi Zionists.
Any perusal through any history will reveal that the Nazi
extermination of the Jews cannot be compared with the Israeli-Arab
conflict in the West Bank/Gaza, (Hamas-Gaza and Fatahland). First of
all there are no mass killings. I could go on. They try to paint
Jews/Israelis as evil with total fabrications and false accusations.
Distortion and exaggeration are the most handy tools of neo nazi
posters. They try to make the 1 billion Arabs into
underdogs. They attempt to paint all Israelis in the colors of
Religious zionists. They use very inaccurate terms like Apartied and
Racism. This is NOT a racist struggle. Its a religious/political one.
By saying "racist" they attempt to deceive the liberals and left
wingers who I call boo hoos. I think there is nothing wrong with
liberalism or anything left wing, but when they are fooled by Arab
racist hatemongers they become tools for them. Israelis are a product
of many races. Unlike the Arabs the program is to treat everyone
equally. Palestinian Arabs are separated from the rest since they
have been supporting violence against Israelis/Jews since 1920. They
pretty much have created their ghetto of intolerance and hate.
The last was, the 2nd intifada, was only stopped by a wall being
built around them. There was no peace treaty. Just a wall.

TAKE BACK YOUR SANITY, BEWARE THE TRICKSTER

TAKE BACK YOUR SANITY, BEWARE THE TRICKSTER

We must take back our sanity. We must chew on facts. Innocent
acceptance nevers ends in inoocent action.
If anything Henry Makow IS part of a conspiracy. Only a dodderhead
cannot see that. We imagine Henry Makow as some sort of Paul Revere
against a global Masonic conspiracy. A conspiracy that controls world
events; like the Wizard of Oz. Can it actually be THAT simple??? With
revolutionary fervor ther are shouts to us all 'TAKE BACK YOUR
GOVERNMENTS!'. Can it be that simple? All we lack is the will to take
us back to the Garden? To Utopia?With incredible naivete he recounts
the same facts about a global historical conspiracy. Over and over he
repeats the same facts. If there actually was a global cabal would
there be so much public knowledge; possibly hidden in plain sight?
Anyone who watches a serial, a soap opera a television series knows
that basic to any plotline is not simply a world conspiracy; but many
world cabals; conspiracies; groups!
No the world is not 'Les Miz'. And 'Les Miserables' IS NOT THE PLOT!
It is the THEME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Henry Makow is part of any cabal. His simplied theories are meant to
trap the simpletons. The naive ones of the web.
Here Makow takes the ancient them to BLAME the JEWS. Anyone who trods
the timelines of history see the setup. Ethnic groups as a conspiracy
plot is the stuff of fairy tales. Is is Jews Makow means? Or is it
trolls, elves, pixies, gnomes????Thats the archetype Makow is
reaching for. And simpletons fall HEAD OVER HEELS for this!!!!!Makow
is obviously a disinformation agent. Whether he knows the facts or
not. His goal is to confuse us all. HOPLESSLY!!!!
Just comparing the Necons with the Leftists of the post-Roosevelt era
is heavy with trolls, gnomes, pixies!! Makow just calls them Jews.
The trickster archetype!!! But Makow himself is the trickster. He is
the rabbit! The Jews and non-Jews of the materialistic Neocons are of
an ENTIRELY different school from the socialist utopian drven
Democrat ideologues that Alger Hiss and Henry Wallace figured
among!!! If you know history; you know Makow is the trickster.

Why are the Gazans resorting to violence?

Whats so hard to understand? This is how regimes change in the Arab world. This has happened in:

Syria - Bashars father seized power in the seventies.
Iraq - Aide from now, Sadddam overthrew mentor and executed his rivals
Saudi Arabia - Attempted regime change was the killing of King Faisal in 1975
Egypt - The public killing of Anwar Sadat by Islamists for the crime of bringing peace.
Sudan- Numerous coups never mind the genocides in Darfar and in the South.
Yemen - Numerous coups
Libya - Ghaddaffy's overthrow of the native king
Algeria - Numerous coups never mind the massacres after the Islamist election vitory was overthrown
Lebanon- 1975-1990 Civil war plus the recent killings of anti-Syrian politicians. Never mind the recent Palestiniabn Arabs attacks on the gov't.

Why? Thats the culture. Its a tribal culture of violence. Islam does
a lousy job of bringing peace. Its time to drop it!

Ten Reasons why "Israeli" Jews are Kosher Targets - Response

Ten Reasons why "Israeli" Jews are Kosher Targets


1. They are occupying by force land which doesn't belong to them.

To the spoils belong the victor. Even so Arabs doen the line have been unable or refused to trade land for peace. This has gone on now for 40 years.

2. They have ethnically cleansed the Palestinians from that

Ethnically cleansed people do not increase in number, they decrease. See Holocaust.

3. After more than fifty years, they still refuse to let the
Palestinians
return to their land and property.

When those Arab Palestinians left the theatre of war at the behest of 5 Arab Armies they declared themselves allied with those armies. They became hostile agents. Considering their support for the last intifada they will never be admitted back. You do not ask people who tried to kill you to move in next door.
They deserve compensation. They want compensation. Ask Hamas why they reuse this.

4. They are objectively part of an imperialist colonial base in the
heart of the Arab World

Israelis are a secular enclave in a hostile Muslim Arab world. A world of supremacist racist beliefs that consists of Egypt, Jordan, Syra, Suadi Arabia , Syria etc.
In addition Israel was founded with little support from colonial powers. In fact a British general commanded Jordans armies.
Israel got aid from the Czechslovakia for example.

5. They continue to kill and oppress the Palestinians daily

If anyone kills and oppresses Arabs its Arabs. Look at Gaza. Israel activities towards eliminating terrorists results in gunfights. Disarming your enemy is NOT oppressing them.

6. They must understand somehow that Palestinian blood is not cheap

Arabs killing Arabs certainly make them look cheap to themselves

7. They have been using the so-called peace process to
consolidate their gains on the ground. 95 more colonies were built
since the Oslo Agreement in 1993, not to mention bypass roads, in
the West Bank

Life has to go on. We can't wait forever for Palestinian Arabs to get their act together and and fumbling, stumbling, killing each other and killing Israelis,

8. They can lend the Palestinians some Cobras and F-16's if they
don't like human bombs and rocks

Weapons given to Palestinian Arabs in the Oslo agreement were used to kill Israeli civilians in 2002.

9. They have managed to convince the U.S. government and
media that killing "Isreali" Jews is terrorism whereas the
point-blank killings of Palestinian children and the assassinations
of
Palestinian freedom fighters are just 'mutual violence' and
'conflicting heritage claims'. Reality Check!

Assassinating your eenemy before he kills civilians is called self defense. The Palestinian Arab terrorists live among fellow Arabs in an attempt to discourage IDF counter-terrorism. So its expected that some firefights involve deaths of children. Thats the Reality Check

10. They can always choose to LEAVE if they don't like the few
methods left to the Palestinians to liberate their land

No the Israelis chose to build a wall and isolate themselves from Palestinian Arabs--proxy soldiers of Islam

Note: This is not some 'extremist' position. Palestinian and Arab
opinion polls, for example, indicated in the past
that support for the human bombs tactic runs upwards of ninety
percent on the Arab street. Indeed, such human bombs are not
only justified. Much more of them is needed with the world behind
it to rid of white zionists out! of palestine

Here Zionists are portrayed as white, when half of all Israelis are as dark as their Arab neighbors having come from Arab countries themselves. Its an effort to make Israelis look like colonialists, which they are not. In facts Jews originated in the area as the Romans genocided the Judean population in the year 70. The Jews are back. Its the Arabs who invaded in 642 who are more easily classified as colonialists.


Later
joel goldstein

Did a Joel Goldstein really write this? Of course not. Arabs and White Supremacists try to give an air of legitmacy by using Jewish names.
You see they realize other names will not give it respect. Doesn't say much of having confidence in their names or themselves!

Now that I wrote this I will save it as this dogma is bound to be repeated much more!!!!!!!!!!

10 Questions For Israeli Zionists- Response

Question No. 1: Why do Zionists insist on confusing Zionism with Judaism? Not all Zionists are Jewish, and not all Jews are Zionists. George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Tony Blair, John Negroponte, Bill & Hillary Clinton, and John Bolton - to name but a few very powerful pro-Israeli Zionists - are clearly NOT Jewish. At the same time, writers like Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, Juan Gelman, Israel Shamir, the Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum group (see www.jewsagainstzionism.com) and the editors of the New York left-wing Jewish journal 'Forward' are all Jewish, and yet strongly opposed to Zionism.... ADDENDUM: These 'Zionists' who are not Jewish are pro-Zionist of Neo-Conservative Fascist variety. Israel Shamir is a Swedish white supremacist who has posed for a decade as a anti-Zionist Jew. His name is really Jermad Joran. Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum does not believe in political Zionism but he does believe in religious Zionism. And the editors of the Forward though highly critical of Israel support its existence. Naom Chomsky in a televised debate with Alan Dershowitz showed while he is an expert on language and has revealed much on fascistoc tendencies in American govderment was woefully inadequate in regard to his knowledge on Israel. This also occurred in a debate between Norman Finklestein and Dershowitz. Question No. 2: Why do Zionists purposefully seek to harm Jewish communities in the Diaspora? As an Argentine citizen, I am concerned about the fact that Zionists and Israelis confuse Zionism with Judaism on purpose, because this can potentially lead to very negative and unjust reactions on the part of vast population sectors the world over who, ignoring this key differentiation between Zionists and Jews, might end up blaming all Jews for the carnage, injustice and genocide being perpetrated by some militant Zionist Jews in Israel and elsewhere. In Argentina, we are particularly concerned over how this can be detrimental to the peaceful Jewish community residing in our country. To accuse any person critical of Israel and Zionism of being an 'Anti-semite' is ludicrous and tantamount to intellectual terrorism because in that way any chance of holding a free and open debate on these complex issues is thwarted and silenced. We urgently need to understand that the way the State of Israel was created over half a century ago bore the seeds of todays increasingly violent conflicts in the Middle East. We need to base our views and opinions on Historical Truth, and not on propaganda and myth. We need to understand what are the true objectives of International Zionism in the whole world, as well as in Argentina and in our region. In fact, it would have a very moralizing effect in Argentina and other countries, if local Jewish community associations and leaders would adopt an inequivocal public stance condemning the barbaric attacks that Israel is carrying out against Palestine and Lebanon. ADDENDUM:I feel that this is too opinionated to be represenative of the Diaspora jews. Probably bogus. Now Zionism is NOT a monolithic belief. It simply states that Jews have the right to live in Israel. Not to fight Arabs. Not to expell Arabs. Islamists Arabs and their white supremacist allies would have you believe that all Zionism is exclusive so as to dismiss any discussion of Zionism and its acceptance in ANY FORM! There are many versions of Zionism. Religious, Political and its subform Socialistic. Zionism doesnot preclude any criticism of Zionism, Israel or Isreali policies. You can be a member of the Peace Now movement in Israel AND STILL BE ZIONISTIC. The aims of various Israeli administrations have been in a plethora of forms over the 58 years. Zionism is not Nazism. Nazism was a poltical dictadorship over all peoples within Germany. Israel is a republic in the British style. Israel has fought a protracted war with Palestinian Arabs and their allies other Arab states and cabals for 86 years including 58 as a state. In this war it has oppressed many of the Palestinian Arab people. But unfortunately it is war, Thats what happens when these Palestinian Arabs support terrror such as rockets and previously suicide bombings. Not all Diaspora Jews support Israel. But as long as you believe in the Torah/Talmud you believe in Zionism. Accusing any criticism of anti-semitism is wrong, but its currently used as a cover in many cases, of not Israel hate but Jew hate. There is no International Zionism. Here its used as a sunstitute for International Communism. When we have to fear International Globalism. Thats real. Israel's existence has not caused all the violent activity in the Middle East. Israel has been around since 1948 yet this activity is fairly new as Islamic culure is perceived as being erroded by Western materialistic values and even the presence of Westeners in a manifest destiny/sacred/racist pure Islamic view of the Middle East. As was when Ossama demanded Us troops leave the sacred land of Saud's Arabia. In this case the terrorists won as US troops went over to Iraq. Iraq has little to do with Israel. They are separated by thousands of miles. Israel latest enemies have been Hezbollah, Syria and faroff fundamentalist Shiiite Iran. Saddam Hussein did support suicide bombings with money, but that was a minor irritant anf of course the Israelis did support an overthrow of Iraq. But the main gist of Iraq has been its status as the second largest oil field and undeveloped at that!!! Petroleum is expensive and this amount is worth trillions to the Neo-Com Globalists plus its worth its weight in the power from vast sums of money. As for Lebanon, Israel did not carry out an unusually barbaric war. For that read about the Iraqi war. Much more barbaric. Israel used intelliegence to warn residents of ammo caches and then bomb them. There are no magic viewscreens to target women and children from Israeli HQ or bomber pilot sights. The outcry is pure Hezbollah PR. very good PR at that. It successfully covered up previous militant inages of the Hezbollah. Question No. 3: Why do Zionists insist on accusing anyone critical of Israel and Zionism of 'Antisemitism'? To even speak of 'Antisemitism' in this day and age is absurd and downright hypocritical. 'Semitic' is a linguistic category originally coined and used by such19th Century intellectuals as Wilhelm Marr in Germany, and French philosophers Eduard Renán and Count Arthur de Gobineau who contrasted 'Semites' with 'Aryans'. Do Zionists now also want us all to start talking about 'Aryans'? One can hardly believe that such stupidity can still be seriously voiced in the 21st Century!! If Zionists insist on talking about 'Antisemitism', then they should be reminded that the Arab Nations are also 'Semitic', as they too descende from Shem, the eldest son of Biblical Noah... Clearly, if Zionists insist on ranting about 'the scourge of Antisemitism', then they should understand that today's real 'Antisemitism' is the bloody persecution of Palestinians, Iraquis and Lebanese (for the most part, 'Semites') at the hands of the genocidal invading forces of the United States, Great Britain and Israel, most of whose top leaders are clearly 'Aryans': Ehud Olmert, Ariel Sharon, Benjamín Netanyaju, George W. Bush, Tony Blair, Dick Cheney, to name but a few, are clearly of 'Aryan' stock as they bear no resemblance whatsoever to the poor and suffering 'Semites'.... ADDENDUM; Wording like the above makes me wonder about the authenticity of this article as written by an Argentine Jew. It would not be the first time that a white supremacist wrote as if he/she was a Jew. Admittedly anti-semitism is a clumsey word as Arabs who are among the worlds greatest Jew haters are Semites in terms of their language groups. Semitic as a race group is an archaic classification dropped decades ago as a result of Hitlers race classifications being used as reasons to kill European ethnic groups. I prefer Jew hate, myself. But anti-semitism's usage is far from stupid. Indeed the bloody persecutions of Iraqis by American and British of Anglo Saxon descent is something to consider. But Aryan is not a scientific race classification any more than Semtic. Ehud Olmert, Ariel Sharon, Benjamín Netanyahu are not Aryan nor Semitic as in race since those terms are anachrinistic! Archaic. They are Israeli Jewish leaders defending the state against Lebanses Hezbollah and Palestinian Arab attack. The sneaky grouping of Israelis with Anglo Saxons again makes me supect white supremacist/islamist origin Question No. 4: Why do Zionists martyrize Gaza and the Palestinians? In 1989, the world freed itself of the shameful Berlin Wall. A few short years later, the State of Isrel replaced it with the even more shameful Gaza Wall, hundreds of kilometers long and 8 meters high, with its military check points, barbed-wire fences and heavily armed soldiers firing at civilians and constantly humiliating the Palestinian people. Israel has turned the Gaza Strip into a massive concentration camp housing half a million civilians living imprisoned with little or no water, sewage, electricity, jobs, schools or hospitals. They lie defenseless before their Zionist captors. Clearly, Israeli leaders have learned much from Auschwitz and the Warsaw Ghetto... ADDENDUM: Comparing Israelis with Nazis is a white supremacist/islamist turnspeak tactic. The Gaza wall has nothing to do with German Nazi concentration camps in design or purpose. Gazi is hundreds of miles bigger than Auschwitz lets say. Whereas Auschwitz was liquidation /labour center, Gaza is a refugee camp erected by the Egyptian government after 1949. It was conquered in 1956 as a terror base for egyptian funded raiders. And later taken over by Israelis after 1967 along with the sinai. When the Sinai was returned,to Egypt in 1982 Egypt would not take back Gaza. So Gaza is in limbo as a Hamas entity. Not a state yet not recognizing Israel has put it in a precarious position. But i does have water, sewage, electricity, jobs, schools or hospitals but since Israel is at war with Hamas, these services are hampered. But So any association to German Nazi concentration camps is nil and a PR move. Question No. 5: Do the Israelis really expect the Palestinians and Lebanese not to somehow defend themselves against their attacks? Only Sovereign Nation-States can have regular and legal Armed forces (e.g., Israel, the United States, Great Britain and Argentina, to name a few). Palestine, however, is not allowed to have a Sovereign Nation-State, so Palestinians have no option but to support irregular insurgent armed forces like Hamas to retaliate against Israel. After years of invasion and occupation by Israel and other nations, Lebanon has not been given the chance of building a Sovereign Nation-State, so the Lebanese have no defense option but to support the irregular insurgent Hezbollah militias. Surely both Hamas and Hezbollah receive arms and support from Syria and Iran... Doesn't Israel received enormous support and arms from the United States of America? Isn't Israel the sole nuclear power possessing Weapons of Mass Destruction in the Middle East, thanks to the apporoximately 400 atomic bombs the United States generously ceded to them? In fact, seeing Israel's current behaviour of running amok in the region, the key question we should be asking is: can Israel be trusted with this extremely powerful and deadly nuclear arsenal? Shouldn't the international community be disarming Israel as a way of promoting world peace? The Palestinian and Lebanese peoples have the RIGHT to self-defense against State Terrorism being waged against them by Israel. In their desperate predicament, one can understand them doing whatever they can to defend themselves and for many increasingly desperate Palestinians and Lebanese, this includes supporting Hamas and Hezbollah. Let's be honest: if Hamas and Hezbollah were to disappear overnight, what solution does Israel and the United States have for peace in the Middle East? Consistently, they have shown that they have none, because peace is neither a US or Israeli objective, nor is it in the wider geopolitical interests of both countries. On the issue of Terrorism, the United States, Britain and Israel branded Hamas and Heznollah as 'terrorist organizations'. We should, however, remember that the Israeli Defense Forces (i.e., the Israeli Army) arose from the merger in 1948 of four key Zionist terrorist organizations: Hagganah, Stern Gang, Irgun, and Zvai Leumi. Those terrorist groups were responsible for literally thousands of assassinations, both before and after the creation of the State of Israel, which included the massacre of civilians in the village of Deir Yassin which led to the expulsion of millions of Palestinians in 1948; the assassination also in 1948 of UN Mediator for Palestine Count Folke de Bernadotte (organized by the Stern Gang guerrilla group led by Ytzakh Shamir, later primer minister of Israel); and the terrorist bomb attack in 1947 against the King David Hotel in Jerusalem which housed the British Military High Command (carried out by the guerrilla group led by Menahem Beghin, later also primer minister of Israel). This latter attack set a precedent of the terrorist methodology used in the two bomb attacks in Argentina (see Question 10 below). On the issue of 'terrorism', then, there are only two options: either all of these groups - Hamas, Hezbollah and the Israeli Army - are to be regarded as 'defense forces'; or all of them are branded as 'terrorist groups'. You cannot have your cake and eat it too... ADDENDUM:Palestine has yet to evolve nation status so there is no army. But its police force is derived from years as the guerrilla/ terror force known as the Palestiniian Liberation Organization. Lebanon indeed has an army, but has been hobbled by a 15 year civil war between Christians and Muslims that goes back to the days of the Arab conquest. In reference to Israel's atomics; it has behaved in an impeccable manner in this regard! I should add that there has never ben an account of the number of them Nor was Israel given the nukes by the US. Israel having a share of scientific personage acquired the bombe with French assistance approxiamately in 1961. unlike the USA, France, Great Britian, China, India Pakistan and the Soviet Union ir never threatened any state including the Arab enemy states with nuclear annihilation. Today Iran before it acquires this atomic knowledge has threatened Israel with destruction periodically since the 1980's. Since Israel is 13 miles wide atomics is a purely offensive weapon. State reaction against Palestinian Arab terror is historically one of Arab incitement going back before there was an Israel supervision of the West Bank & Gaza, way back before there was Israel. When the Arab offensive relaxed so did the Israeli people. But this policy was updated/changed as Israelis now persecute all Palestinian Arabs seen as a danger to Israeli civilians incessantly. The Israeli Army was founded by a merger of the Hagganah, Stern Gang, Irgun, and Zvai Leumi. The latter 3 did do acts considered terror at times against the British military preventing emigration of Holocaust survivors and the rival Arab militias. These acts were outnumbered by the vast number of PLO terror attacks from 1970 to 1993 including Entebbie, the Olympic massacre, and numerous shootings and hijackings in airports all over the Middle East and Europe. Again these acts were later outclassed by the suicide bombings by Hamas, Tanzim, Al aqsa Brigades, Islamic Jihad and PFLP groups nevermind the Palestinian Committes from 1995 to today. It has recently been revealed that the only massacre of Palestinian Arabs at Deir Yassin may have simply been a ballte between Irgun and Palestinian Arabs. And that the rival Hagganah set it up to scare Palestinian Arabs away and to defama Irgun. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Arab terror groups cannot be viewed as defensive and target civillians.... Question No. 6: Why do Zionists refuse to publicly investigate and debate the so-called 'Holocaust' in a balanced and objective manner? Today, this has become a key issue, because a proper understanding of the Holocaust will give us clear clues regarding the origin of the Middle Eastern conflict, as well as of many key events since World War Two leading to the enthronement of the 'New World Order' which our globalized society suffers today. There exists a growing revisionist movement in European and US academic circles which holds that it is yet to be convincingly demonstrated that six million Jews actually died at the hands of National Socialist Germany and Austria during World War II. Serious investigations on this complex issue are still taboo nowadays in the better part of the Western world and in some countries like France, Canada, Germany and Austria, such investigations are actually banned by law, bowing to Zionist pressure. What are they so afraid of? Could it possibly be that if a serious and objective historical investigation were to be carried out, it might be shown that the six million figure just doesn't add up? US Jewish author Norman Finkelstein, in his book 'The Holocaust Industry', published in 2002, clearly demonstrates how the 'Holocaust Myth' was invented and used by the State of Israel to rally permanent financial and political support from the United States, its key allies and aligned sectors within the Jewish Diaspora the world over. As a clue to what we are saying, for many years when Poland was under Soviet domination, the Auschwitz Museum there showed a plaque which reminded visitors that 'Four Milllion Jews' had been assasinatied there until 1945, thus fueling two-thirds of the Six Million Myth. However, after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the ensuing liberation of Poland, that plaque was discreetly removed and replaced by a new one saying that '1.500.000 people ' had died there. Where are the Holocaust's Six Million then? ADDENDUM; This iswhere the Argentine authorship falls apart. Jews do not question the Holocaust. but white supremacists/islamists do! Denying the Holocaust is a pure measure of Jew Hate. Its meant to revise history that ant future Holocaust can be re-enacted. This movement has not been accepted in academic circles to any large degree. Its not Zionist pressure that has persecuted the Holocaust Denial movement in Europe, but the europeans themselves. You see besides the 6 million Jews in the European Holocaust there were 5 million non-Jews. That is why Faurisson, David Irving and Zundel are being prosecuted by Europeans for Europeans! Should David Finklestein attempt any visit to Europe he should watch out.
Question No. 7: How do Zionists explain the unconditional support that the United States of America gives International Zionism and the State of Israel? I believe that in order to comprehend what is happening today in the world we need to understand that the government of the United States of America has been commandeered [hijacked?] by the forces of International Zionism. Only then can the unconditional, permanent and unflinching US support for Israel be properly understood. Former Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharón eloquently reflected this when during a heated cabinet debate with Shimon Peres in late 2003 he said that he (Peres) should not worry about US reaction to Israeli aggression against the Palestininians because 'We (the Israelís) control the United States and the Americans know this very well' (cited in Israeli newspaper Ha'arezt, and also published in Argentine by Jewish writer Juan Gelman in the Buenos Aires daily 'Página 12', 04-Dec-03). This highly dangerous problem of global dimensions was recently assessed in a report published by Harvard University in March 2006, authored by University of Chicago professor John Mearsheimer and the Dean of Havard's John F Kennedy School of Government, Stephen Walt describing 'The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy', (see Harvard Faculty Research Working Papers Series, RWP06-011). Both authors convincingly show the enormous political and financial influence and excessive leverage which pro-Zionist and pro-Israeli lobbies such as AIPAC - American Israeli Political Action Committee - have. So much so that they have succeeded in bending US foreign policy against the national interest of the people of the United States, in order to prioritize the national interest of a foreign country: the State of Israel. So obvious and flagrant is this key factor in US foreign policy, that even former National Security Advisor and key Trilateral Commission / Council on Foreign Relations idealogue Zbigniew Brzezinski voiced support for Measheimer and Walt, saying that they serve the public interest by pointing this problem out (see Bzezinski's article: Mearsheimer and Walt's public service initiating debate on the role of the Israel lobby: a Dangerous Exemption). We could also point to other very powerful and influential pressure groups like the World Zionist Organization, the World Jewish Congress, ADL - Anti-Defamation League (controlled by the masonic B'Nai B´Rith lodge), and the PNAC - Project for a New American Century, whose key intellectuals today serve in the Bush administration or influential upon it, and includes officials responsible for the destruction of Iraq and the unconditional US support for Israel: Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, I. Lewis Libby, Paul Bremer III, Richard Armitage, Robert Zoellick, James Baker III and Elliot Abrams to name but a handful. ADDENDUM; Argentine Jews do not accuse the USA of being hijacked by Zionists. This confirms this fraud. I can now say this is of white supremacist origin. Now the Israel lobby is indeed powerful in the hall of government. But to say there is Internaional Zionism is funny. Its brings back memories of sloganeering by Ronald Reagain when he compared 'card carrying ACLU members' to previous card carrying communist party members in the 1950's. International Zionism is meant to regurgitate 'International Communism'. If Israel did actually control the US then why was there a need for Israel to spy on the US military as in the current AIPAC scandal or the Jonathan Pollard incident????? The recent Israel lobby article has been dismissed in academic circles. When you see 'controlled by the masonic B'Nai B´Rith lodge' you know a white supremacist wrote this as they fear Masons. 'Project for a New American Century, whose key intellectuals today serve in the Bush administration or influential upon it, and includes officials responsible for the destruction of Iraq and the unconditional US support for Israel: Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, I. Lewis Libby, Paul Bremer III, Richard Armitage, Robert Zoellick, James Baker III and Elliot Abrams to name but a handful. ' These people are NeoCons who work for the Globalist corporate cabal that is far more powerful than the Israel lobby as it has sent us into a unwinnable war for oil resources. They may even be more powerful than the US gov't. Question No. 8: Is it good for the world to be dominated by very small minorities? In an official Israeli web site (The Jewish Agency for Israel, www.jafi.org.il) and in various sites belonging to Jewish organizations in the US (e.g., www.jewishvirtuallibrary.com), total world Jewish polulation is estimated at around 16.000.000 people (of which approximately 200.000 are said to reside in Argentina). This clearly indicates that the world's Jewish Communities are very tiny in their numbers, i.e., only 0.2% of the worlds total population estimated at 6.5 billion people (and 0.5% of Argentina's population of around 39 million). Is it not undemocratic for such small minorities to wield so much world power and leverage? So much so, that today the extremely aggresive and powerful Zionist sector of the Jewish community is dragging the entire planet to the brink of a Third World War as the London 'Financial Times' reports in its 24th July 2006 issue? ADDENDUM;There is no wielding of world power here by Zionists or Israelis or Jews. Its a perception tp create an enemy in the Jewish people, Historically Jews have been blamed for the ills of European civilization even after they were expelled from much of Europe for not converting to Christianity at the time . This blaming or scapegoating is being revived again with Jews as the global menace to disguise the real menaces, Islamic fundamenntalism and growing corporate power. The Islamic/Christian divide that dates to the invasion of the Roman Empire by Arabs in the 640's is bringing us to the 3rd world war.[/B] Question No. 9: Why do Zionists systematically lie about the cause of today's crisis in the Middle East? The tragic events in Lebanon and Palestine were allegedly triggered because Israel says that Hamas and Hezbollah 'kidnapped' three of their soldiers in Gaza and on the border with Lebanon (some reports say inside Lebanon), respectively. This is a travesty, because combat soldiers cannot be 'kidnapped'; only civilians can be kidnapped. Combat soldiers can be captured, even killed by the Enemy, but not 'kidnapped'. Nevertheless, Israel, the United States and the subservient global media financed and controlled by the very same international financial circles running today's 'New World Order', repeat time and again that those three Israeli soldiers were 'kidnapped'... An old adagio says that 'when war breaks out, the very first victim is truth...' Psychological War operations form part of the Zionist-US worldwide strategy, which includes major bomb scares and 'Anthrax-attack' scares. Even the terrible events of September 11th in the US, March 11th in Madrid and July 7th in London have yet to be properly addressed and clarified, as there is mounting evidence showing the tell-tale signs of probable 'dirty tricks' in these operations, reminiscent of the 'Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq' scare of 2002 and 2003. Nevertheless, the aligned media and key world leaders use this to satanize the Muslim world and justify gross discrimination and aggression against the followers of Islam on a global basis. ADDENDUM: This is literally word for word from white supremacist Jew hate sites. The Hezbollah kidnapping was the straw that broke the camels with Israel. Even usually critical European nations condemned the Hezbollah action. Hamas was on a truce so they violated their own rules! Since there were no combat missions with Hezbollah and Hamas by the IDF then they were not the enemy. But these arguements are semantic.anti-semantic. (ha!) Suddenly the author states 'Psychological War operations form part of the Zionist-US worldwide strategy,' without so much as a easing into ogf the subject. This is again a charaacteristic of white supremacist writing. There is much mystery about 9/11 that has to be explained. Even some regarding 7/7 and 3/11. But 3/11 perpetrators as well as the London bombers were obviously fundamentalist Muslims. The participation of Muslims in this acts of violence is self-satanizing! Question No. 10: Argentina: Why isn't a highly plausible ISRAELI connection investigated as the prime suspect in the two bomb attacks against the Israeli Embassy (1992) and AMIA Jewish Community Association HQ (1994) in Buenos Aires? According to the prestigious New York-based Jewish Anti-Zionist journal 'Forward', the US Government has been increasingly pressing Argentina's government to deliver a (clearly false) 'Iranian connection' in respect of these two bomb attacks. The Mossad and CIA intelligence agencies together with accommodating Argentine governments have been trying for 12 and 14 years respectively to fabricate such a false so-called 'Iranian Connection', but have fully failed in their endeavours. They went so far as to have one of these cases' acting Federal Judges - Juna José Galeano - actually bribe a key suspect (Mr Telledin) with u$s 400.000 so that he would accuse the local police of having been involved, as that would have enabled them to 'trace' this back to Hizbollah, Syria and Iran. What concerns many of us in Argentina is that if president Nestor Kirchner's pro-Zionist Argentine government were to bow to such pressures, and ends up giving the US and Israel yet another 'reason' to attack Hezbollah, Syria and Iran, then our country will become directy involved in the criminal war which International Zionism is waging against the Muslim world... And the vast majority of the Argentine people definitely do not want any of this! At this stage of events, what Argentina needs is to investigate a much more plausible hypothesis involving an ISRAELI Connection in both bomb attacks which took place at a time when there was a very strong power struggle inside Israel between a more moderate sector which wanted to make the Oslo Agreements work (i.e., the Ytzakh Rabin-led Lebour Party), and right-wing fundamentalists who only believe in the sanctity of Eretz Israel to be forged by Imperial military expansion. That internal struggle culminated in Novermber 1995 when Israel's pro-peace prime minister Rabin was gunned down on the streets of Israel, NOT by a Muslim terrorist; NOT by a racist Neonazi; but rather by Yigal Amir, a young Israeli Zionist militant, closely linked to the extreme right-wing Jewish Settlers' movement and close to the Shin-Beth, Israel's internal security service. Later on, the official Shamgar Commission which investigated Rabin's assassination concluded that Shin.Beth had had a high degree of responsibility, even if only for having failed to properly protect the prime minister. With Rabin's assassination in 1995, the road was left open for a take-over of the Israeli Government by zealots like Benjamin Netanyahu, Ehud Barak, Ariel Sharon, Ehud Olmert, and their cronies in the ultra right-wing and fundamentalist Likud and Kadima parties... We insist: The time has come to promote an open and serious debate into fundamental aspects regarding the origins of the violent conflict in the Middle East. Only when TRUTH is allowed to prevail can the bloodbath of hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the Middle East come to a halt. Because THAT is the real Holocaust that the world is suffering today; and it is happening here and now!. ADDENDUM; There is no Israeli connection to the Buenos aries bombings since investigations have linked it to Iranian sponsored Muslim sttacks. So far not one Israeli connection has even remotely been connected to to 9/11, 7/7 3/11 or 11/9 or 7/11.!!! When you see this ' the sanctity of Eretz Israel to be forged by Imperial military expansion. ' you see white supremacist authorship regarding the humorous Greater Israel concept. When Rabin was assaisinated it was the first gov't reaching out to Palestinan Arabs, even as Hamas suicide bombers has begub operations. His administration replaced right wing Israeli governments dating back to Menachem Begin and his peace with Egypt. The author says he wants 'truth' and 'open debate' but I doubt the sincerity. Israels Kadima party is actually opposed by I the Israeli right wing in respect to the West Bank & Gaza. A fact purposefully left out! To call the present situation the Holocaust a clever minimization of the systematic murder of 11 million Europeans. Its an insult to use that word 'Holocaust'!!!!

Discrminate against those trying to kill you

Is Israel a racist country? Yes it is! There is discrimination against the Ethopian Jews and other minorities. Russian and Ukrainian Jews suffer too!. Foreign workers from the Phillipines, the Ukraine, Russia and other countries are biased against.But this happens in the USA. This happens in the most diverse city in the USA---New York.But when you COMPARE racism in Israel with Europe it fairs favorably. In Europe antisemitism is ravaging. Far worse there. Skinheads in Germany. Skinheads in Russia attack any minority! Suddenly Israel is looking quite liberal! In Arab countries minorities have been HISTORICALLY discriminated against. Ask the Copts. In Lebanon ask the Christians of all sorts. Syria Iraq they are second class citizens. In the oil sheikdoms foreign workers have NO RIGHTS! There they outnumber the Arabs.In Saudi Arabia there are non-Arabs are non-entities. The "umma" concept of Arab Muslim lands in inherently RACIST!!!This concept denies the existence of Israel. Hence all the strife!What about the poor (boo hoo) Palestinians? They have supported an concerted effort to destroy Israel and kill Jews in the majority since the 1920's. This was conclusively confirmed in the 2nd intifada! Do Israelis discriminate against Arab Palestinians? You bet your ass! I hope they do!!! You discriminate against people trying to KILL YOU!!!

MARK TWAIN ON PALESTINE IN 1867

"Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse
that has withered its fields and fettered its energies. Where Sodom and Gomorrah reared their domes and towers, that solemn sea now floods the plain, in whose bitter waters no living thing exists -- over whose waveless surface the blistering air hangs motionless and dead -- about
whose borders nothing grows but weeds, and scattering tufts of cane, and that treacherous fruit that promises refreshment to parching lips, but turns to ashes at the touch. Nazareth is forlorn; about that ford of Jordan where the hosts of Israel entered the Promised Land with songs of rejoicing, one finds only a squalid camp of fantastic Bedouins of the desert; Jericho the accursed, lies a moldering ruin, to-day, even as
Joshua's miracle left it more than three thousand years ago; Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and their humiliation, have nothing about them now to remind one that they once knew the high honor of the leader's presence; the hallowed spot where the shepherds watched their flocks by
night, and where the angels sang Peace on earth, good will to men, is untenanted by any living creature, and unblessed by any feature that is pleasant to the eye. Renowned Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur, and is become a pauper village; the riches of Solomon are no longer there to compel the admiration of visiting Oriental queens; the wonderful temple which was the pride and the glory of Israel, is gone, and the Ottoman crescent is lifted above the spot where, on that most memorable day in the annals of the world, they reared the holy cross. The noted Sea of Galilee, where Roman
fleets once rode at anchor and the disciples of the leader sailed in their ships, was long ago deserted by the devotees of war and commerce, and its borders are a silent wilderness; Capernaum is a shapeless ruin; Magdala is
the home of beggared Arabs; Bethsaida and Chorazin have vanished from the earth, and the "desert places" round about them where thousands of men once listened to the leader's voice and ate the miraculous bread, sleep in the hush of a solitude that is inhabited only by birds of prey and
skulking foxes. Palestine is desolate and unlovely. And why should it be otherwise? Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land? "

Israeli Arabs

Is Israel a Liberal Democracy in the European sense?Of course not! How a country is ruled is in large part determined by where it is, who its neighbors are and what type of ideal its striving for in regard to the political history of its citizens and the traditions of its citizens. You must also include the influence of leading countries and their forms of government.Do the Israeli Arabs feel they are living in a democracy? Of course not. First of all they have no experience to live in an Arab democracy. Lebanon with its continuing bloodshed is the best example of minrities maintaining rights in an Arab democracy. Second, the Arabs are continually reminded that they live in a Jewish State. A state where they are a minority. This must be very annoying despite the fact that they have more rights as an Arab in Israel than any Arab state. A great amount of Arab tradition deals with honor as the Arab people are only emerging now into a secular status. Of course this is greatly hampered by the panicky return to fundamentalism in recent decades. And this honor sticks in the Israeli Arab craw.