Refuting Commentator Soofi
Randall Kuhn has my respect for having such a fine sense of justice and fairness and for tearing that argument apart with a compelling analogy of his own. Does that sensibility come from the fact that he is Jewish and perhaps his religion has guided him as such? If it had, I wouldn't be surprised. When the muslim world criticizes the injustices of Israel, those complaints are brushed away as antisemitism, but it is not the jews that are hated, they are still the People of the Book - it is the hatred of wickedness and injustice that we see and condemn. If more voices like those of Randall Kuhn stepped forward, a bridge towards peace could be built.
Here's hoping..
Bias and prejudice has corrupted this analogy that Randall Kuhn has made. The argument is indeed torn apart by that and not his sense of justice, but a flaw in Mr. Kuhn’s character. A frequent tactic employed by those who would like to see Israel go away, is to pose as a Jew and then argue against its policies of survival. So the reader thinks “If a Jew can argue against Israel’s interests perhaps it’s OK.” Theres even this plug for Judaism, as if Judaism has ideals better than Israel’s. To brush away the Islamic worlds complaints about the injustices of Israel as anti-semitism is misleading, false and inaccurate. It reeks badly of distortion and more bias. The Islamic world since 1920 has objected to a non-Muslim state in their midst. Its not anti-semitism but anti-diversity!! The Commentator here says its not the Jews who are hated but their policies. You cannot separate these. The Arabs call the Israelis …Yehudis. That’s Jews. The emphasis is on their being Jews not Zionists. They do call Israel “the Zionist entity” because if they utter “Israel” its like recognizing the Jewish state as LEGAL. Yes theur is a hatrred of Arabs in Israel. You cannot expect anything else from the constant raids, rockets, gun fights, kidnappings, airplane hijackings, assaisinations massacres and acts of terror endured by Israelis since 1920 (28 years before the state was founded). This so-called bridge of peace seems to resembles Neville Chamberlains rather than Winston Churchills
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
Refuting Randall Kuhn
When Israel Expelled Palestinians: What if it was San Diego and Tijuana Instead?
by Randall Kuhn
In the wake of Israel's invasion of Gaza, Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak made this analogy: "Think about what would happen if for seven years rockets had been fired at San Diego [1], California from Tijuana [2], Mexico."
Within hours scores of American pundits and politicians had mimicked Barak's comparisons almost verbatim. In fact, in this very paper on January 9 House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor ended an opinion piece by saying "America would never sit still if terrorists were lobbing missiles across our border into Texas or Montana." But let's see if our political and pundit class can parrot this analogy.
Think about what would happen if San Diego expelled most of its Hispanic, African American, Asian American, and Native American population, about 48 percent of the total, and forcibly relocated them to Tijuana? Not just immigrants, but even those who have lived in this country for many generations. Not just the unemployed or the criminals or the America haters, but the school teachers, the small business owners, the soldiers, even the baseball players.
What if we established government and faith-based agencies to help move white people into their former homes? And what if we razed hundreds of their homes in rural areas and, with the aid of charitable donations from people in the United States [3] and abroad, planted forests on their former towns, creating nature preserves for whites to enjoy? Sounds pretty awful, huh? I may be called anti-Semitic for speaking this truth. Well, I'm Jewish and the scenario above is what many prominent Israeli scholars say happened when Israel expelled Palestinians from southern Israel and forced them into Gaza. But this analogy is just getting started.
Kreplach:
The authors takes a comparison and then injects his own prejudical assumptions into the mix. First rockets were flying in from Tijuana and suddenly Mexicans are being expelled a la apartheid across the border.
What should be mentioned was that Pancho Villa ordered those Mexicans to leave their homes so he could vanqyish those pesky San Diegans. The author may be Jewish but has a limited grasp on what actually happened in 1948. Most Arabs who relocated to the West Bank or the Palestinian highlands did so on the advice of the leaders of 5 Arab Armies (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt) A few were expelled and some fled in fear. In losing the war the Arab armies created vast tracts of empty land and created Israel.
Fearing complicity in the attempted genocide of Palestinian Jews, the R=Arabs remained there. The author out of naivete ignorance or malicousness fails to mention this in his “analogy”.
What if the United Nations kept San Diego's discarded minorities in crowded, festering camps in Tijuana for 19 years? Then, the United States invaded Mexico, occupied Tijuana and began to build large housing developments in Tijuana where only whites could live.
What if the Mexicans refused to integrate these Mexicans into the rest of the Mexican population? What if they were taught by rebels groups to hate San Diegans for the lack of integration instead of the Mexicans?? What if the Mexicans under UN aegis treated these refugees poorly? What if Mexiv=cans refused to talk with the San Diegans on these issues? And then The San Diegans beat off a Mexican attack and occupied Tijuana? Population pressure then caused many San Diegans to migrate to Tijuana.
And what if the United States built a network of highways connecting American citizens of Tijuana to the United States? And checkpoints, not just between Mexico and the United States but also around every neighborhood of Tijuana? What if we required every Tijuana resident, refugee or native, to show an ID card to the U.S. military on demand? What if thousands of Tijuana residents lost their homes, their jobs, their businesses, their children, their sense of self worth to this occupation? Would you be surprised to hear of a protest movement in Tijuana that sometimes became violent and hateful? Okay, now for the unbelievable part.
And then Mexico funded extremist terrorists to kill San Diegans in San Diego, Tijuana and everywhere else. How could you keep this conflict in check? With walls, checkpoints and separation!
Think about what would happen if, after expelling all of the minorities from San Diego to Tijuana and subjecting them to 40 years of brutal military occupation, we just left Tijuana, removing all the white settlers and the soldiers? Only instead of giving them their freedom, we built a 20-foot tall electrified wall around Tijuana? Not just on the sides bordering San Diego, but on all the Mexico crossings as well. What if we set up 50-foot high watchtowers with machine gun batteries, and told them that if they stood within 100 yards of this wall we would shoot them dead on sight? And four out of every five days we kept every single one of those border crossings closed, not even allowing food, clothing, or medicine to arrive. And we patrolled their air space with our state-of-the-art fighter jets but didn't allow them so much as a crop duster. And we patrolled their waters with destroyers and submarines, but didn't even allow them to fish.
What if Mexico also built a wall and surrounded this area? Considering the violent episodes that regulary pulsed the population fed by hate refusing to talk wouldn’t you want to keep them in check until they regained their sanity. Here sanity means accept San Diegos right to exist.
Would you be at all surprised to hear that these resistance groups in Tijuana, even after having been "freed" from their occupation but starved half to death, kept on firing rockets at the United States? Probably not. But you may be surprised to learn that the majority of people in Tijuana never picked up a rocket, or a gun, or a weapon of any kind.
No you wouldn’t be surprised that the Tijuanitas were launching missiles with a death philosophy based on an extreme version of their religion and funding from extremists in Mexico.
The majority, instead, supported against all hope negotiations toward a peaceful solution that would provide security, freedom and equal rights to both people in two independent states living side by side as neighbors. This is the sound analogy to Israel's military onslaught in Gaza today. Maybe some day soon, common sense will prevail and no corpus of misleading analogies abut Tijuana or the crazy guy across the hall who wants to murder your daughter will be able to obscure the truth. And at that moment, in a country whose people shouted We Shall Overcome, Ich bin ein Berliner, End Apartheid, Free Tibet and Save Darfur, we will all join together and shout "Free Gaza. Free Palestine." And because we are Americans, the world will take notice and they will be free, and perhaps peace will prevail for all the residents of the Holy Land.
The majority of Tijuaintas were polled frequently always expressed support for the most extreme elements out of a combination of fear and hatred of those extremists and taught hatred over generations. Free Gaza is shouted but Gaza really was free all along but CHOSE war.
© 2009 The Washington Times
Randall Kuhn is an assistant professor and Director of the Global Health Affairs Program at the University of Denver Josef Korbel School of International Studies. He just rd from a trip to Israel and the West Bank.
by Randall Kuhn
In the wake of Israel's invasion of Gaza, Israel's Defense Minister Ehud Barak made this analogy: "Think about what would happen if for seven years rockets had been fired at San Diego [1], California from Tijuana [2], Mexico."
Within hours scores of American pundits and politicians had mimicked Barak's comparisons almost verbatim. In fact, in this very paper on January 9 House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor ended an opinion piece by saying "America would never sit still if terrorists were lobbing missiles across our border into Texas or Montana." But let's see if our political and pundit class can parrot this analogy.
Think about what would happen if San Diego expelled most of its Hispanic, African American, Asian American, and Native American population, about 48 percent of the total, and forcibly relocated them to Tijuana? Not just immigrants, but even those who have lived in this country for many generations. Not just the unemployed or the criminals or the America haters, but the school teachers, the small business owners, the soldiers, even the baseball players.
What if we established government and faith-based agencies to help move white people into their former homes? And what if we razed hundreds of their homes in rural areas and, with the aid of charitable donations from people in the United States [3] and abroad, planted forests on their former towns, creating nature preserves for whites to enjoy? Sounds pretty awful, huh? I may be called anti-Semitic for speaking this truth. Well, I'm Jewish and the scenario above is what many prominent Israeli scholars say happened when Israel expelled Palestinians from southern Israel and forced them into Gaza. But this analogy is just getting started.
Kreplach:
The authors takes a comparison and then injects his own prejudical assumptions into the mix. First rockets were flying in from Tijuana and suddenly Mexicans are being expelled a la apartheid across the border.
What should be mentioned was that Pancho Villa ordered those Mexicans to leave their homes so he could vanqyish those pesky San Diegans. The author may be Jewish but has a limited grasp on what actually happened in 1948. Most Arabs who relocated to the West Bank or the Palestinian highlands did so on the advice of the leaders of 5 Arab Armies (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt) A few were expelled and some fled in fear. In losing the war the Arab armies created vast tracts of empty land and created Israel.
Fearing complicity in the attempted genocide of Palestinian Jews, the R=Arabs remained there. The author out of naivete ignorance or malicousness fails to mention this in his “analogy”.
What if the United Nations kept San Diego's discarded minorities in crowded, festering camps in Tijuana for 19 years? Then, the United States invaded Mexico, occupied Tijuana and began to build large housing developments in Tijuana where only whites could live.
What if the Mexicans refused to integrate these Mexicans into the rest of the Mexican population? What if they were taught by rebels groups to hate San Diegans for the lack of integration instead of the Mexicans?? What if the Mexicans under UN aegis treated these refugees poorly? What if Mexiv=cans refused to talk with the San Diegans on these issues? And then The San Diegans beat off a Mexican attack and occupied Tijuana? Population pressure then caused many San Diegans to migrate to Tijuana.
And what if the United States built a network of highways connecting American citizens of Tijuana to the United States? And checkpoints, not just between Mexico and the United States but also around every neighborhood of Tijuana? What if we required every Tijuana resident, refugee or native, to show an ID card to the U.S. military on demand? What if thousands of Tijuana residents lost their homes, their jobs, their businesses, their children, their sense of self worth to this occupation? Would you be surprised to hear of a protest movement in Tijuana that sometimes became violent and hateful? Okay, now for the unbelievable part.
And then Mexico funded extremist terrorists to kill San Diegans in San Diego, Tijuana and everywhere else. How could you keep this conflict in check? With walls, checkpoints and separation!
Think about what would happen if, after expelling all of the minorities from San Diego to Tijuana and subjecting them to 40 years of brutal military occupation, we just left Tijuana, removing all the white settlers and the soldiers? Only instead of giving them their freedom, we built a 20-foot tall electrified wall around Tijuana? Not just on the sides bordering San Diego, but on all the Mexico crossings as well. What if we set up 50-foot high watchtowers with machine gun batteries, and told them that if they stood within 100 yards of this wall we would shoot them dead on sight? And four out of every five days we kept every single one of those border crossings closed, not even allowing food, clothing, or medicine to arrive. And we patrolled their air space with our state-of-the-art fighter jets but didn't allow them so much as a crop duster. And we patrolled their waters with destroyers and submarines, but didn't even allow them to fish.
What if Mexico also built a wall and surrounded this area? Considering the violent episodes that regulary pulsed the population fed by hate refusing to talk wouldn’t you want to keep them in check until they regained their sanity. Here sanity means accept San Diegos right to exist.
Would you be at all surprised to hear that these resistance groups in Tijuana, even after having been "freed" from their occupation but starved half to death, kept on firing rockets at the United States? Probably not. But you may be surprised to learn that the majority of people in Tijuana never picked up a rocket, or a gun, or a weapon of any kind.
No you wouldn’t be surprised that the Tijuanitas were launching missiles with a death philosophy based on an extreme version of their religion and funding from extremists in Mexico.
The majority, instead, supported against all hope negotiations toward a peaceful solution that would provide security, freedom and equal rights to both people in two independent states living side by side as neighbors. This is the sound analogy to Israel's military onslaught in Gaza today. Maybe some day soon, common sense will prevail and no corpus of misleading analogies abut Tijuana or the crazy guy across the hall who wants to murder your daughter will be able to obscure the truth. And at that moment, in a country whose people shouted We Shall Overcome, Ich bin ein Berliner, End Apartheid, Free Tibet and Save Darfur, we will all join together and shout "Free Gaza. Free Palestine." And because we are Americans, the world will take notice and they will be free, and perhaps peace will prevail for all the residents of the Holy Land.
The majority of Tijuaintas were polled frequently always expressed support for the most extreme elements out of a combination of fear and hatred of those extremists and taught hatred over generations. Free Gaza is shouted but Gaza really was free all along but CHOSE war.
© 2009 The Washington Times
Randall Kuhn is an assistant professor and Director of the Global Health Affairs Program at the University of Denver Josef Korbel School of International Studies. He just rd from a trip to Israel and the West Bank.
Refuting a Youtuber
Youtuber:
How come now that Hamas is fighting the zionists its because they are fanatic Islamists? What about Fatah? They fought Zionists as well and they are secular...WHY did they fight? Please, you are a victim of your own propaganda. It is a fact that you are oppressing those people. Sad fact is that many of the settlers are AMERICAN Jews. Why are you going over there to steal those poor peoples land? When you go there on TV everyone sees an AMERICAN there and not a Zionist criminal... Anyway, they are not fighting because they are fanatics. They are fighting because you keep demolishing their homes and killing their children, because of the Jewish only roads and settlements and the immigration policies that allow any Jews to come there but wont let the refugees return to their land (for which they have deeds going back generations), because you keep taking their land while you talk peace (2 incidents in the last week), because you suffocate them economically and because you continuously are degrading and humiliating them. To turn a blind eye to all of those things and say that they are fighting you for no reason is idiotic. You and people like you should be charged with TREASON because you are putting the interests of some stupid racist country before American interests and endangering AMERICAN lives. Zionists are nothing but criminals and thieves and they are, through their behavior, giving all Jews a bad name. If you care about Israel so much RENOUNCE YOUR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP and quit giving us a bad reputation.
Kreplach:
Is it so hard to see there are forces behind the politically disorganized Palestinian Arabs? The Arab League and their rival in anti-Zionist adventurism the mullahs of Iran are behind them. The Arab League was defeated in 1948 and revenge has been there motive since. They supported Arafat beginning in 1970 and switched to Hamas after the 1993 peace treaty.
What propells the Arab League? Saudi Arabia and its Wahabi policies. Wahabi as in Islam. The Palestinian proxy fight has been oppressing those people. Who was oppressing Gaza before the war? Imaginary Israelis? The Palestinian Arabs tried violent means to dislodge the Jewish infidels for SO LONG that a religious Zionist movement that most Israelis find alien has
invaded the West Bank. That’s karma! Right wing pressure has kept increasing their presence. Even Sharon realized they are a liability.
Sharon ended the building demolishments 2 years ago. Keep up with the program! And when you fight in an urban warfare setting, guess where the casualities will be??? Hamas with their Islamic CULTURE OF DEATH try to gain sympathy from naïve Westerners by increasing the odds of civilian deaths by firing from crowds of civilians and civilan institutions such as hospitals, shelters and schools. There are no magic X ray missiles that are guided specifically at children or any other civilians. When YOU say Israelis target children you are either abandoning logic and reason or are purposefully spreading false impressions. Immigration allows Jews to live in Israel, like French in France or Congolese in the Congo. And there are many non-Jewish immigrants. Contrast that with immigration into any Muslim Arab state! The Jews themselves are multi-racial and come from diverse places as India, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia as well as Iran, Iraq, the US, Ireland, Norway and Russia. When you go to apartheid Saudi-land there are separate highways for NON-MUSLIMS! The Arabs living behind the Green Line (Israel) for the most part abandoned their homes. They were instructed to leave the theatre of war by the leaders of the 5 Arab Armies (Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, and Jordan—The Arab League Army!). They deserve compensation like ALL refugee populations of mass emigration see India, Pakistan, Greece, Rome, Yugoslavia, Poland, Germany etc. They prefer compensation but Hamas and Fatah prodded by fanatic and suicidal beliefs in the afterlife (courtesy of radical Islam) has suppressed those opinions. The Palestinian Arabs have suffered economically because they are in a state war with Israel. It has been THAT way since they set over the first suicide bombers in 1993. You fight economically in wars. They brought more suffering upon themselves, when they elected Hamas as a minority government. They elected WAR. When you have a hostile nation you build fortified borders like Israel has done. Where have all the suicide bombers gone?? The 2nd intifada brought the hardhips on the Palestinian Arab people.
Sudicide bombers killed so many people the Israelis instituted the measures at checkpoints to prevent death. Why are so many Israelis hardened to the Arabs? Because of THOSE attacks. And keep in mind the first Arab attacks were in 1920. They were repeated in 1920, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1947 and 1948. Many Israelis remember that. They also remember when Arab nations attacked in 1967, 1973, 1978, 1982, 2006 and last December. Those werent all the attacks. Are these eyes blind? No they see all!!!
When you say “stupid racist country” your emotions are blinding you! You cannot see the situation correctly. When you say “TREASON” you invoke more emotion packed distortions. American interests are NOT put in danger by Israel but by its corporate interests, its democratic values and its position as world police. To say Zionists are nothing more than criminals and thieves is you practically shouting from a mountaintop that you think with prejudices and biases accrued from hate sites on the internet. You live by unquestioned speculation that is dogma. I am often told by Jew haters and anti-zionists to go to Israel. Its an attempt at distraction and evasion from any real arguements.
How come now that Hamas is fighting the zionists its because they are fanatic Islamists? What about Fatah? They fought Zionists as well and they are secular...WHY did they fight? Please, you are a victim of your own propaganda. It is a fact that you are oppressing those people. Sad fact is that many of the settlers are AMERICAN Jews. Why are you going over there to steal those poor peoples land? When you go there on TV everyone sees an AMERICAN there and not a Zionist criminal... Anyway, they are not fighting because they are fanatics. They are fighting because you keep demolishing their homes and killing their children, because of the Jewish only roads and settlements and the immigration policies that allow any Jews to come there but wont let the refugees return to their land (for which they have deeds going back generations), because you keep taking their land while you talk peace (2 incidents in the last week), because you suffocate them economically and because you continuously are degrading and humiliating them. To turn a blind eye to all of those things and say that they are fighting you for no reason is idiotic. You and people like you should be charged with TREASON because you are putting the interests of some stupid racist country before American interests and endangering AMERICAN lives. Zionists are nothing but criminals and thieves and they are, through their behavior, giving all Jews a bad name. If you care about Israel so much RENOUNCE YOUR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP and quit giving us a bad reputation.
Kreplach:
Is it so hard to see there are forces behind the politically disorganized Palestinian Arabs? The Arab League and their rival in anti-Zionist adventurism the mullahs of Iran are behind them. The Arab League was defeated in 1948 and revenge has been there motive since. They supported Arafat beginning in 1970 and switched to Hamas after the 1993 peace treaty.
What propells the Arab League? Saudi Arabia and its Wahabi policies. Wahabi as in Islam. The Palestinian proxy fight has been oppressing those people. Who was oppressing Gaza before the war? Imaginary Israelis? The Palestinian Arabs tried violent means to dislodge the Jewish infidels for SO LONG that a religious Zionist movement that most Israelis find alien has
invaded the West Bank. That’s karma! Right wing pressure has kept increasing their presence. Even Sharon realized they are a liability.
Sharon ended the building demolishments 2 years ago. Keep up with the program! And when you fight in an urban warfare setting, guess where the casualities will be??? Hamas with their Islamic CULTURE OF DEATH try to gain sympathy from naïve Westerners by increasing the odds of civilian deaths by firing from crowds of civilians and civilan institutions such as hospitals, shelters and schools. There are no magic X ray missiles that are guided specifically at children or any other civilians. When YOU say Israelis target children you are either abandoning logic and reason or are purposefully spreading false impressions. Immigration allows Jews to live in Israel, like French in France or Congolese in the Congo. And there are many non-Jewish immigrants. Contrast that with immigration into any Muslim Arab state! The Jews themselves are multi-racial and come from diverse places as India, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia as well as Iran, Iraq, the US, Ireland, Norway and Russia. When you go to apartheid Saudi-land there are separate highways for NON-MUSLIMS! The Arabs living behind the Green Line (Israel) for the most part abandoned their homes. They were instructed to leave the theatre of war by the leaders of the 5 Arab Armies (Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, and Jordan—The Arab League Army!). They deserve compensation like ALL refugee populations of mass emigration see India, Pakistan, Greece, Rome, Yugoslavia, Poland, Germany etc. They prefer compensation but Hamas and Fatah prodded by fanatic and suicidal beliefs in the afterlife (courtesy of radical Islam) has suppressed those opinions. The Palestinian Arabs have suffered economically because they are in a state war with Israel. It has been THAT way since they set over the first suicide bombers in 1993. You fight economically in wars. They brought more suffering upon themselves, when they elected Hamas as a minority government. They elected WAR. When you have a hostile nation you build fortified borders like Israel has done. Where have all the suicide bombers gone?? The 2nd intifada brought the hardhips on the Palestinian Arab people.
Sudicide bombers killed so many people the Israelis instituted the measures at checkpoints to prevent death. Why are so many Israelis hardened to the Arabs? Because of THOSE attacks. And keep in mind the first Arab attacks were in 1920. They were repeated in 1920, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1947 and 1948. Many Israelis remember that. They also remember when Arab nations attacked in 1967, 1973, 1978, 1982, 2006 and last December. Those werent all the attacks. Are these eyes blind? No they see all!!!
When you say “stupid racist country” your emotions are blinding you! You cannot see the situation correctly. When you say “TREASON” you invoke more emotion packed distortions. American interests are NOT put in danger by Israel but by its corporate interests, its democratic values and its position as world police. To say Zionists are nothing more than criminals and thieves is you practically shouting from a mountaintop that you think with prejudices and biases accrued from hate sites on the internet. You live by unquestioned speculation that is dogma. I am often told by Jew haters and anti-zionists to go to Israel. Its an attempt at distraction and evasion from any real arguements.
Saturday, February 7, 2009
Inside the Bigot
The bigots see the Jew as the other. The other to be blamed. Of course it simple psychological projection from neurotically damaged minds, Projection means they wish to cut out something from deep within themselves. Theres self hatred here projected on to the Jews. They have not reconciled their light and dark sides. Its dirty filthy evil these people want to exorcise It’s a perpetual, never ending struggle to cleanse themselves of the unclean. They hated this part of themselves. It’s a self loathing. They percieve this essential part of their being as alien as something they can rip off or tear away. This struggle becomes externalized into hatred of the different, the alien, the Jew. They cant resolve to unify or love themselves, they cannt resolve to see a humankind included with others, The Jew, The Black, The Immigrant, The foreigner. That is damage. To futher tear at their essence they increase the damage. They begin to love the damage, the hate. They get a high at seeing suffering from hate, from division. They sense a feeling of power. They do not realize this power is emptying their soul. They are the snake eating its own tail.
The Right, the Left and the Wrong in Jew Hatred
There are idealist left wing or leftist idealists corralled (like cattle) by white supremacist operatives (Nazis and other similar flavors). If you go through anti-semitic Yahoo and google groups, Youtube, internet forums ( from the left and right- Most run by the right FOR the left) you may not be able to distinguish between the foolers and the fooled. There is a deliberate campaign by a network of right wing ideologues to bring about conditions for another Holocaust or at least a turn of public opinion against Jews and Israel! And this has been going on well before the worldwide web! Now they have been joined by Islamists (Fundamentalists Muslims) of mostly Arab background. This has created a cross cultural current of pre WW2 anti-semitic literature (propaganda) to be rehashed between Islamist and Arabist circles and white supremacist Jew Haters around the world. And Most of it was created in the USA as well as Nazi Germany then. [This may have contributed to the overwhelming atmosphere of guilt AFTER WW2 that helped Israel and suppressed anti-semitism then] They come out like clockwork in every conflict involving Israel. I notice how other issues like Tibet, Darfur, Burma, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Zimbabwe etc are ignored or dismissed. This campaign has its roots in the 19th century. They raid Jewish Yahoo groups as well as others with spam attacks. When you try to engage them you realize their composite nature of ignorant idealists and rabid Nazi/Klan advocates. Both the idealists and grizzled supremacists pretend to know to be versed in historical details but when challenged you get the idea they just read the plethora of anti-Semitic sites and barely know current events, recent history, world history or ancient history. And the hostile reaction is telling as well. Rarely do they reply in a coherent or logical way. 1. They simply dismiss facts they cant intellectually digest, in many tangential ways. 2. They simply say that cannot be true. 3. They proclaim me a liar or Zionist or Illuminati agent or Satan. (really!!) 4. They ignore me. 5. They predict the END OF THE JEWS in many different MAGICAL and BIBLICALLY-DERIVED ways 6. They will dismiss me labeling me as part of a group or conspiracy that follows orders robotically when its the JEW HATERS is unconsciously a robot of bias and hatred! (like when white supremacists call Jews….get this….. Jewish supremacists) 7.They taunt and insult me like 8 year old children (this is the most frequent and pathetic reaction) They will post any graphic or photo usually misleading or forged that will make Israel or Jews look evil. At the outbreak of any conflict with Israel involved there will be a rain of dead baby photos with text pronouncing Israeli responsibilty.
These photos will have originated with The Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanese Wars Please note that other non-Iisraeli wars will be mostly ignored by the coalition of rightist led leftists. There will be no coverage of internal Lebanese conflicts, (with their origin in the IGNORED LEBANESE CIVIL WAR.), the Algerian massacres (yes ignored massacres!!), the Polasario-Morrocan war, the African Continental wars in Congo, Uganda, Rwanda, other African wars in Liberia, Guinea, Ghana, Nigeria, Zimbabwe, the Sudan, Chad, Somalia and humanitarian crises with liberation struggles in Tibet, East Turkestan, Burma (Myanmar), Sri Lanka, Southern Thailand. Islamist collaborators often try their darnest to drag the reluctant right wingers into coverage of Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Kashmir. And then the discussion is given some brief attention and moves quickly back to Israel. Some like Henry Makow will pretend to be Jewish in an effort to say even Jews can be Jew haters. This in conjunction with crazy Illuminist and other tracts and histories concocted with a mixture of facts and fictions.
Yes there are many liberal left wing Jews who hold Israel up to a gleaming standard while ignoring the thugs of Hamas. You see it’s the Bibles Jews, Their spiritual ancestors How could they retalitate against attacks. They should be holy priests not soldiers. That’s devoid of reality.Im sorry to say but it’s the Republicans and their radical Christian Zionist rapturists who are insidiously doing Israel and the Jews JUST AS MUCH damage by promoting conflict, with the Arabs and ignoring reproachments with the possibility of Islamic moderates (who need protection and encouragement) Anti-Semitism has always been the expert domain of Rightists. Their thoughts and tactics are more organized here. That doesn’t dismiss the left wing Jew haters whenther independent or led by the rightists. They are quite potent but like many liberals and leftists subdivided with many divergent ideas leading to disorganization.
These photos will have originated with The Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanese Wars Please note that other non-Iisraeli wars will be mostly ignored by the coalition of rightist led leftists. There will be no coverage of internal Lebanese conflicts, (with their origin in the IGNORED LEBANESE CIVIL WAR.), the Algerian massacres (yes ignored massacres!!), the Polasario-Morrocan war, the African Continental wars in Congo, Uganda, Rwanda, other African wars in Liberia, Guinea, Ghana, Nigeria, Zimbabwe, the Sudan, Chad, Somalia and humanitarian crises with liberation struggles in Tibet, East Turkestan, Burma (Myanmar), Sri Lanka, Southern Thailand. Islamist collaborators often try their darnest to drag the reluctant right wingers into coverage of Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Kashmir. And then the discussion is given some brief attention and moves quickly back to Israel. Some like Henry Makow will pretend to be Jewish in an effort to say even Jews can be Jew haters. This in conjunction with crazy Illuminist and other tracts and histories concocted with a mixture of facts and fictions.
Yes there are many liberal left wing Jews who hold Israel up to a gleaming standard while ignoring the thugs of Hamas. You see it’s the Bibles Jews, Their spiritual ancestors How could they retalitate against attacks. They should be holy priests not soldiers. That’s devoid of reality.Im sorry to say but it’s the Republicans and their radical Christian Zionist rapturists who are insidiously doing Israel and the Jews JUST AS MUCH damage by promoting conflict, with the Arabs and ignoring reproachments with the possibility of Islamic moderates (who need protection and encouragement) Anti-Semitism has always been the expert domain of Rightists. Their thoughts and tactics are more organized here. That doesn’t dismiss the left wing Jew haters whenther independent or led by the rightists. They are quite potent but like many liberals and leftists subdivided with many divergent ideas leading to disorganization.
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