Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Refuting a Youtuber

Youtuber:
How come now that Hamas is fighting the zionists its because they are fanatic Islamists? What about Fatah? They fought Zionists as well and they are secular...WHY did they fight? Please, you are a victim of your own propaganda. It is a fact that you are oppressing those people. Sad fact is that many of the settlers are AMERICAN Jews. Why are you going over there to steal those poor peoples land? When you go there on TV everyone sees an AMERICAN there and not a Zionist criminal... Anyway, they are not fighting because they are fanatics. They are fighting because you keep demolishing their homes and killing their children, because of the Jewish only roads and settlements and the immigration policies that allow any Jews to come there but wont let the refugees return to their land (for which they have deeds going back generations), because you keep taking their land while you talk peace (2 incidents in the last week), because you suffocate them economically and because you continuously are degrading and humiliating them. To turn a blind eye to all of those things and say that they are fighting you for no reason is idiotic. You and people like you should be charged with TREASON because you are putting the interests of some stupid racist country before American interests and endangering AMERICAN lives. Zionists are nothing but criminals and thieves and they are, through their behavior, giving all Jews a bad name. If you care about Israel so much RENOUNCE YOUR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP and quit giving us a bad reputation.

Kreplach:
Is it so hard to see there are forces behind the politically disorganized Palestinian Arabs? The Arab League and their rival in anti-Zionist adventurism the mullahs of Iran are behind them. The Arab League was defeated in 1948 and revenge has been there motive since. They supported Arafat beginning in 1970 and switched to Hamas after the 1993 peace treaty.
What propells the Arab League? Saudi Arabia and its Wahabi policies. Wahabi as in Islam. The Palestinian proxy fight has been oppressing those people. Who was oppressing Gaza before the war? Imaginary Israelis? The Palestinian Arabs tried violent means to dislodge the Jewish infidels for SO LONG that a religious Zionist movement that most Israelis find alien has
invaded the West Bank. That’s karma! Right wing pressure has kept increasing their presence. Even Sharon realized they are a liability.
Sharon ended the building demolishments 2 years ago. Keep up with the program! And when you fight in an urban warfare setting, guess where the casualities will be??? Hamas with their Islamic CULTURE OF DEATH try to gain sympathy from naïve Westerners by increasing the odds of civilian deaths by firing from crowds of civilians and civilan institutions such as hospitals, shelters and schools. There are no magic X ray missiles that are guided specifically at children or any other civilians. When YOU say Israelis target children you are either abandoning logic and reason or are purposefully spreading false impressions. Immigration allows Jews to live in Israel, like French in France or Congolese in the Congo. And there are many non-Jewish immigrants. Contrast that with immigration into any Muslim Arab state! The Jews themselves are multi-racial and come from diverse places as India, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia as well as Iran, Iraq, the US, Ireland, Norway and Russia. When you go to apartheid Saudi-land there are separate highways for NON-MUSLIMS! The Arabs living behind the Green Line (Israel) for the most part abandoned their homes. They were instructed to leave the theatre of war by the leaders of the 5 Arab Armies (Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, and Jordan—The Arab League Army!). They deserve compensation like ALL refugee populations of mass emigration see India, Pakistan, Greece, Rome, Yugoslavia, Poland, Germany etc. They prefer compensation but Hamas and Fatah prodded by fanatic and suicidal beliefs in the afterlife (courtesy of radical Islam) has suppressed those opinions. The Palestinian Arabs have suffered economically because they are in a state war with Israel. It has been THAT way since they set over the first suicide bombers in 1993. You fight economically in wars. They brought more suffering upon themselves, when they elected Hamas as a minority government. They elected WAR. When you have a hostile nation you build fortified borders like Israel has done. Where have all the suicide bombers gone?? The 2nd intifada brought the hardhips on the Palestinian Arab people.
Sudicide bombers killed so many people the Israelis instituted the measures at checkpoints to prevent death. Why are so many Israelis hardened to the Arabs? Because of THOSE attacks. And keep in mind the first Arab attacks were in 1920. They were repeated in 1920, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1947 and 1948. Many Israelis remember that. They also remember when Arab nations attacked in 1967, 1973, 1978, 1982, 2006 and last December. Those werent all the attacks. Are these eyes blind? No they see all!!!

When you say “stupid racist country” your emotions are blinding you! You cannot see the situation correctly. When you say “TREASON” you invoke more emotion packed distortions. American interests are NOT put in danger by Israel but by its corporate interests, its democratic values and its position as world police. To say Zionists are nothing more than criminals and thieves is you practically shouting from a mountaintop that you think with prejudices and biases accrued from hate sites on the internet. You live by unquestioned speculation that is dogma. I am often told by Jew haters and anti-zionists to go to Israel. Its an attempt at distraction and evasion from any real arguements.

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